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Spider-Man 2 is the Perfect Spider-Man Movie - Fireside Discussion

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# Spider-Man 2 is the Perfect Spider-Man Movie - Fireside Discussion
# Transcribed 2026-07-26 11:29
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[00:00:00 - 00:00:07] Okay wait, this was one thing I had. Doc Ox, one goal. And he's told by Harry,
[00:00:07 - 00:00:10] just bring me Peter. They're on this train. And he's like,
[00:00:11 - 00:00:15] well, I'm just gonna leave you to figure this out and assume you're dead.
[00:00:16 - 00:00:20] That does not make a lot of sense. That's like the one decision that I think doesn't make a
[00:00:20 - 00:00:24] lot of sense. Like I think he would try to take Peter and just let the people die.
[00:00:24 - 00:00:32] My one thought is like he's gonna let Peter exhaust himself trying to stop this train
[00:00:32 - 00:00:36] and then just pluck him up because he comes back. Yeah. Okay, you know, you're right.
[00:00:48 - 00:00:54] All right, guys, we are finally here. This is like the moment we've all been waiting for.
[00:00:54 - 00:00:56] The long awaited Spider-Man marathon. Really, really just the moment.
[00:00:58 - 00:01:01] Gretzman's saying he's excited. I am genuinely excited for this.
[00:01:01 - 00:01:04] But I am more excited than he is. So we're talking about Spider-Man.
[00:01:04 - 00:01:06] We are on the, the Spider-Man marathon has begun.
[00:01:07 - 00:01:10] And it's only live action. Only live action. Important distinction.
[00:01:10 - 00:01:15] So we'll get to animated whenever friggin, beyond Spider-Verse comes out.
[00:01:15 - 00:01:20] We will do it. Which could be one more 50, but it'll be there.
[00:01:20 - 00:01:24] I have like a question. Okay. Imagine me as a stole my line fan.
[00:01:24 - 00:01:26] Okay. In the comment section. I'm imagining.
[00:01:26 - 00:01:29] Which by the way, thank you for being a fan. You look beautiful because all of our fans are
[00:01:29 - 00:01:33] beautiful. Yes. You're looking jacked because they're all jacked.
[00:01:33 - 00:01:36] Unless you don't want to be. And then you're not. Right, right. They're all kind.
[00:01:37 - 00:01:40] Hopefully, hopefully. Drew. Yes. Grant. Yes.
[00:01:42 - 00:01:46] What, why are you starting with Spider-Man 2? Great question that we've been asked.
[00:01:46 - 00:01:49] We really haven't been asked ever, but like we're still going to answer it.
[00:01:49 - 00:01:52] It's a great question. It's a great question. Listen, we got you.
[00:01:52 - 00:01:56] Because we've already talked about Spider-Man 1. Like almost a year ago.
[00:01:56 - 00:02:00] Way back when it might be a jank episode. Yeah, you went back and watched the episode.
[00:02:00 - 00:02:03] How was it? It was fine. I thought it was like decent, but
[00:02:04 - 00:02:08] a lot of our early episodes, how kind of the awkward, we're just starting a podcast vibe.
[00:02:08 - 00:02:11] And maybe we still haven't, but it's not as bad.
[00:02:11 - 00:02:15] And you're listening and be like, y'all are still super awkward, which we're trying to
[00:02:15 - 00:02:20] work on that. But we're getting there. The earlier episodes are worse than these.
[00:02:20 - 00:02:23] But I think the points you make are still probably good. I agree.
[00:02:23 - 00:02:26] So if you want to watch that episode, it's right here. It's probably in the description.
[00:02:26 - 00:02:30] It's in the playlist. So it's there. It's on our channel. Just look it up.
[00:02:31 - 00:02:36] But Spider-Man 2 is what we're talking about today. True. And I have a question for you.
[00:02:36 - 00:02:39] Oh, okay. You have a question. I was about to ask a question, but you go first.
[00:02:39 - 00:02:45] You historically have not loved this interpretation of Spider-Man.
[00:02:46 - 00:02:47] Like Toby McGuire?
[00:02:47 - 00:02:50] Specifically Spider-Man 1. You had a lot of problems with the dialogue.
[00:02:50 - 00:02:52] I did. I still have a lot of problems with Spider-Man 1.
[00:02:52 - 00:02:55] I think you convinced me that it's better than I thought it was.
[00:02:55 - 00:02:57] I love it. I gave it five stars in the letterbox.
[00:02:57 - 00:02:58] I don't think it's a five star movie.
[00:02:58 - 00:02:59] I think it's great.
[00:02:59 - 00:03:01] I do not think Spider-Man 1 is a five star movie, but I think it's very,
[00:03:01 - 00:03:06] very good for what it's doing with some very obvious flaws.
[00:03:07 - 00:03:07] Yeah.
[00:03:07 - 00:03:08] That's my thoughts on it.
[00:03:08 - 00:03:14] After watching Spider-Man 2, have your feelings alleviated?
[00:03:14 - 00:03:16] Are they brighter or are they about the same?
[00:03:16 - 00:03:18] Um, on Toby McGuire Spider-Man?
[00:03:18 - 00:03:18] Yeah.
[00:03:18 - 00:03:19] Yes, they're brighter.
[00:03:19 - 00:03:19] Okay.
[00:03:19 - 00:03:21] I would say, because it's been a while since I've seen Spider-Man 2.
[00:03:21 - 00:03:25] I think I've seen it once, maybe like years ago.
[00:03:26 - 00:03:27] I loved this movie.
[00:03:27 - 00:03:29] I'm a huge fan of this movie.
[00:03:29 - 00:03:30] This movie is great.
[00:03:30 - 00:03:33] It is a significant step up in quality, I think, from Spider-Man 1.
[00:03:33 - 00:03:34] Okay.
[00:03:34 - 00:03:36] Like, it's pretty night and day.
[00:03:36 - 00:03:36] Wow.
[00:03:36 - 00:03:38] I think the pacing's a lot better.
[00:03:40 - 00:03:41] I think all the characters are super well written.
[00:03:42 - 00:03:47] I think it gets to the core of what Spider-Man is as a superhero and who he is as Peter Parker.
[00:03:48 - 00:03:51] With great power, great responsibility is like a huge part of the movie,
[00:03:52 - 00:03:54] which is a huge part of Spider-Man.
[00:03:54 - 00:03:55] It hammers that home perfectly.
[00:03:57 - 00:04:02] It's got, this might be a hot take, the best Spider-Man live action villain in the movie.
[00:04:03 - 00:04:04] We'll talk about that.
[00:04:04 - 00:04:08] But I think the dialogue's significantly better.
[00:04:08 - 00:04:10] It's aged great.
[00:04:10 - 00:04:10] It has aged great.
[00:04:10 - 00:04:11] Most of the CGI looks incredible.
[00:04:11 - 00:04:12] It looks great.
[00:04:13 - 00:04:18] So yeah, it's a, I think it's a little over two hours, but it feels like it goes by super quick.
[00:04:18 - 00:04:20] I mean, I have, I'm going to glaze this movie on this podcast.
[00:04:20 - 00:04:21] I think it's incredible.
[00:04:21 - 00:04:23] So that's where I'm at.
[00:04:23 - 00:04:25] I basically agree with everything you said.
[00:04:25 - 00:04:29] I think this is, I don't want to say the best sequel of all time.
[00:04:29 - 00:04:31] It's definitely the best superhero sequel of all time.
[00:04:32 - 00:04:34] Dark Knight, oh frick.
[00:04:35 - 00:04:39] I'm okay with like one A one A, one A, one B there.
[00:04:39 - 00:04:39] That's fine.
[00:04:39 - 00:04:41] I forgot the Dark Knight existed for a second.
[00:04:41 - 00:04:42] I'm fine with that.
[00:04:42 - 00:04:43] Yeah, it's okay.
[00:04:45 - 00:04:47] Yeah, spoilers for Spider-Man 2 obviously.
[00:04:47 - 00:04:48] It's been out for 20 years.
[00:04:48 - 00:04:50] It's been out for 22 years.
[00:04:50 - 00:04:51] So you're good.
[00:04:53 - 00:04:56] Honestly, maybe spoilers for anything Spider-Man, because we might, well,
[00:04:57 - 00:05:00] should we have the same rule we had for Nolan of like, we can't talk about
[00:05:01 - 00:05:02] future things?
[00:05:02 - 00:05:03] I'd say let's not talk about future things.
[00:05:03 - 00:05:04] Okay.
[00:05:04 - 00:05:05] Only spoilers for one and two.
[00:05:05 - 00:05:08] Because there's like a chronology here to certain extent.
[00:05:08 - 00:05:08] So.
[00:05:09 - 00:05:10] Yeah, let's get into it.
[00:05:10 - 00:05:18] So my favorite part about this movie is in Spider-Man 1, we established,
[00:05:18 - 00:05:21] obviously with great power comes great responsibility, and that's like the theme
[00:05:21 - 00:05:22] of this character.
[00:05:22 - 00:05:24] And it's literally what we end with when he leaves MJ.
[00:05:24 - 00:05:25] Right.
[00:05:25 - 00:05:28] And then I think one of the greatest scenes in superhero cinema
[00:05:28 - 00:05:32] is him walking away from MJ, because that's what he's wanted his whole life.
[00:05:33 - 00:05:40] And he realizes that he shouldn't have it, because he could potentially hurt MJ.
[00:05:40 - 00:05:40] Yes.
[00:05:40 - 00:05:43] I'm like, that sums up this character so well.
[00:05:44 - 00:05:47] And then in this movie, we ask the question why?
[00:05:48 - 00:05:52] Why does with great power comes great responsibility matter?
[00:05:52 - 00:05:55] And should Peter choose it?
[00:05:55 - 00:05:57] And I'm like, that's so interesting.
[00:05:57 - 00:06:02] And that's such a great way to flush out your character,
[00:06:02 - 00:06:04] but also flush out like the themes of your whole trilogy.
[00:06:04 - 00:06:05] 100%.
[00:06:05 - 00:06:05] Well.
[00:06:06 - 00:06:07] Whole trilogy.
[00:06:07 - 00:06:08] Whole duology.
[00:06:08 - 00:06:11] With a whole trilogy with an asterisk.
[00:06:11 - 00:06:13] But there are sales and themes in the movie.
[00:06:13 - 00:06:14] 100%, 100%.
[00:06:14 - 00:06:16] But it's, it's, yeah.
[00:06:16 - 00:06:17] No, I see what you're saying.
[00:06:17 - 00:06:18] And I completely agree.
[00:06:18 - 00:06:22] I think, I mean, this is something I thought like off the bat,
[00:06:22 - 00:06:26] the first 10 minutes do an incredible job of not reintroducing Peter Parker,
[00:06:26 - 00:06:28] but like, here's where we're at.
[00:06:28 - 00:06:29] And here's what he's struggling with.
[00:06:29 - 00:06:29] Yeah.
[00:06:29 - 00:06:30] Boom.
[00:06:30 - 00:06:34] Like he is like burning the candle at both ends.
[00:06:34 - 00:06:36] And then also in the middle, like he's cooked.
[00:06:38 - 00:06:40] But like, I think it, it establishes like,
[00:06:41 - 00:06:44] it picks up where we left off from one super well as well.
[00:06:44 - 00:06:47] Like he is still in this tension mode with MJ.
[00:06:47 - 00:06:50] Like he made this decision, but he's like, this still really sucks.
[00:06:50 - 00:06:50] I know.
[00:06:50 - 00:06:52] I still really like this girl.
[00:06:52 - 00:06:52] Yeah.
[00:06:53 - 00:06:55] But I think like the setup for this movie is incredible.
[00:06:57 - 00:07:02] And then like, it, I mean, yeah, it ties in so well with one with all the stuff with Harry.
[00:07:03 - 00:07:08] But then once we get into the action and the tension with Doc Ock and, and all that stuff,
[00:07:08 - 00:07:12] like I think this movie just, it picks up the pace pretty quickly,
[00:07:12 - 00:07:15] but not in a way that feels abrupt or abrasive.
[00:07:16 - 00:07:16] I agree.
[00:07:16 - 00:07:23] I, and I think that auto is way more flushed out than normal.
[00:07:23 - 00:07:24] 100%.
[00:07:24 - 00:07:29] Even though I still like Norman as well, but I think Doc Ock is a better villain.
[00:07:29 - 00:07:34] I think Norman stands on William DeFell's performance way more than the writing.
[00:07:34 - 00:07:34] Yeah.
[00:07:34 - 00:07:35] Yes, I agree.
[00:07:35 - 00:07:38] As opposed to Otto who I think Alfred Molina is also great.
[00:07:38 - 00:07:39] Yes, he is.
[00:07:39 - 00:07:45] But he has a lot more character depth and you understand his motivation more,
[00:07:45 - 00:07:50] even if it is kind of surface level of like chip goes bad, therefore he is crazy.
[00:07:50 - 00:07:52] But he's still a sympathetic character.
[00:07:52 - 00:07:53] Still super sympathetic.
[00:07:53 - 00:07:58] Which I think really, I don't know, it goes a long way for this movie for sure.
[00:07:58 - 00:07:58] I agree.
[00:08:00 - 00:08:08] And I think I play the PS4, PS5, Spider-Man video game, which obviously he's a huge part
[00:08:08 - 00:08:13] of that game as well, different like character, but Doc Ock is a huge part of that game.
[00:08:13 - 00:08:18] And that game has more time and space to flesh out him as a character and their
[00:08:18 - 00:08:20] relationship like Peter and Otto.
[00:08:20 - 00:08:26] But like that, I think seeing him as a kind of a mentor-ish figure for Peter,
[00:08:26 - 00:08:29] even though we don't get it a lot in this movie, you still feel that.
[00:08:30 - 00:08:32] Because you know, I mean, Peter doesn't have a dad.
[00:08:33 - 00:08:37] He's kind of a little estranged with Aunt May throughout this movie.
[00:08:38 - 00:08:41] And then also like, yeah, Norman was a father figure.
[00:08:41 - 00:08:42] Norman's dead.
[00:08:42 - 00:08:43] Uncle Ben's dead.
[00:08:44 - 00:08:48] I think him as a kind of mentor-ish father figure, even if it's briefly in this movie,
[00:08:49 - 00:08:53] I think their relationship and dynamic is well-established enough for it to feel
[00:08:53 - 00:08:56] realistic within the universe.
[00:08:57 - 00:09:00] Thoughts on Harry's arc?
[00:09:00 - 00:09:01] I like it.
[00:09:01 - 00:09:02] Okay, do you really?
[00:09:02 - 00:09:02] I do.
[00:09:04 - 00:09:06] Is that like a weak part of the movie to you?
[00:09:06 - 00:09:07] No, I don't think it's weak.
[00:09:07 - 00:09:12] I think James Franco's arc in the whole trilogy is definitely weak.
[00:09:12 - 00:09:20] And I think, I don't know, I think three really kind of cooks him.
[00:09:20 - 00:09:21] Yeah, that's probably fair.
[00:09:23 - 00:09:24] Quite literally cooks him.
[00:09:24 - 00:09:25] Quite literally cooks him.
[00:09:25 - 00:09:30] But I think it's a super interesting tension to have Harry hate Spider-Man love Peter Parker.
[00:09:30 - 00:09:32] Well, I think it's set up well in one.
[00:09:32 - 00:09:32] Yeah.
[00:09:32 - 00:09:36] It's super well of, you know, Harry knows it's Spider-Man that is,
[00:09:37 - 00:09:39] which isn't really true.
[00:09:39 - 00:09:41] I'm still kind of mad at Peter for not saying like-
[00:09:42 - 00:09:43] I didn't actually kill him.
[00:09:43 - 00:09:46] All he had to do would be like, Ayo, this is not what happened.
[00:09:46 - 00:09:47] Yeah, anyway.
[00:09:47 - 00:09:53] But for Harry to know, oh, Spider-Man is the one responsible for my dad's death.
[00:09:54 - 00:09:55] But he doesn't know Peter Spider-Man.
[00:09:55 - 00:09:59] But he starts to kind of get this hunch maybe a little bit or like,
[00:09:59 - 00:10:02] he knows Peter's related to Spider-Man obviously, linked to him.
[00:10:02 - 00:10:07] So I think that being like just another thing on Peter's radar,
[00:10:07 - 00:10:13] like his relationship with MJ and then MJ's relationship with J. Joan and Jamison's son,
[00:10:13 - 00:10:15] which by the way, J. Joan and Jamison is hilarious.
[00:10:15 - 00:10:16] It's so good.
[00:10:16 - 00:10:17] He's so funny.
[00:10:18 - 00:10:20] J.K. Simmons is such a normal actor.
[00:10:20 - 00:10:22] He kills it in this movie.
[00:10:22 - 00:10:22] He's great.
[00:10:22 - 00:10:25] But then like for him to have all his work stuff,
[00:10:25 - 00:10:27] like he is like struggling at work, school,
[00:10:28 - 00:10:31] and then his relationship with Aunt May is kind of like spotty,
[00:10:31 - 00:10:32] especially in the middle of this movie.
[00:10:33 - 00:10:36] Like and then Doc Ock is on the loose.
[00:10:37 - 00:10:38] Like Peter's life is falling apart.
[00:10:38 - 00:10:42] And I think that's just like kind of a quintessential Spider-Man thing to me.
[00:10:42 - 00:10:45] Like he's like barely struggling or he's barely getting by.
[00:10:45 - 00:10:47] He's really struggling to get by.
[00:10:48 - 00:10:50] But then I kind of forgot this in the movie,
[00:10:50 - 00:10:52] that he like chooses to not be Spider-Man.
[00:10:52 - 00:10:53] Yeah.
[00:10:53 - 00:10:55] What did you think of that moment and like,
[00:10:56 - 00:11:00] I mean, you talked a lot about the impact of with great power comes great responsibility.
[00:11:00 - 00:11:02] But that really hit me hard in this,
[00:11:02 - 00:11:05] in this rewatch of how strong that part of the movie is to me.
[00:11:05 - 00:11:09] I mean, again, I think this is how you flush out a character.
[00:11:09 - 00:11:12] You, and it doesn't have to be like this formulaic,
[00:11:12 - 00:11:15] but I think with Spider-Man, this is the easiest way to do it,
[00:11:15 - 00:11:17] is you make his life super miserable.
[00:11:17 - 00:11:18] Yep.
[00:11:18 - 00:11:20] And you really put tension on,
[00:11:21 - 00:11:24] I mean like, I don't want to get into the other movies too much,
[00:11:24 - 00:11:29] but this is the reason or this is a reason why I have a lot of problems with other
[00:11:29 - 00:11:33] Spider-Man interpretations on the live action screen is because
[00:11:33 - 00:11:35] there's very little consequence for anything Peter does.
[00:11:35 - 00:11:39] It's like he's just a plucky, go lucky superhero and that's fine.
[00:11:40 - 00:11:43] Where I suppose this one, it's like he misses MJ show
[00:11:44 - 00:11:48] because he's stopping like the robbery or the car chase or whatever.
[00:11:48 - 00:11:52] And like, there is that instance 10 times in this movie of like,
[00:11:52 - 00:11:54] everyone hates him because he can't show up to anything
[00:11:54 - 00:11:57] because he is this anonymous superhero,
[00:11:57 - 00:11:59] putting everyone else's life above his own.
[00:11:59 - 00:12:02] But like he's making a sacrifice and all that like,
[00:12:02 - 00:12:04] which obviously is kind of what you're saying like,
[00:12:04 - 00:12:07] it's just he's so sacrificial and gets zero credit.
[00:12:07 - 00:12:08] Zero credit.
[00:12:08 - 00:12:10] And also a ton of people kind of hate Spider-Man too.
[00:12:10 - 00:12:11] Right.
[00:12:11 - 00:12:13] Because of J. Jonah Jameson, which he also works for.
[00:12:13 - 00:12:13] Right.
[00:12:13 - 00:12:16] So he's just like, I mean, that's like a small tension point in this movie
[00:12:16 - 00:12:20] where he's like, I don't want to give J. Jonah Jameson more of these photos
[00:12:20 - 00:12:22] because more people are going to hate Spider-Man,
[00:12:22 - 00:12:23] but I also need money.
[00:12:23 - 00:12:26] Like there's so many little tensions in this movie
[00:12:26 - 00:12:27] and they all work so well together.
[00:12:27 - 00:12:31] Like, the pacing is great again.
[00:12:31 - 00:12:32] Yeah, I think it's phenomenal.
[00:12:32 - 00:12:36] So then when he stops being Spider-Man and then it's like,
[00:12:37 - 00:12:40] and again, these movies are so cheesy.
[00:12:40 - 00:12:42] They are cheesy, but this one's less cheesy.
[00:12:42 - 00:12:43] I say that as a massive fan of them.
[00:12:43 - 00:12:45] Like you just kind of have to accept that.
[00:12:45 - 00:12:47] I think the montage of like,
[00:12:48 - 00:12:50] everything's happy in Peter's life is kind of cheesy.
[00:12:50 - 00:12:50] It is.
[00:12:50 - 00:12:52] He's like dancing through the streets.
[00:12:53 - 00:12:56] But yeah, I think like once you accept the level of cheesy though,
[00:12:56 - 00:12:57] it's still good.
[00:12:58 - 00:13:00] The dialogue is a lot better in this movie.
[00:13:00 - 00:13:01] Yeah, I agree.
[00:13:01 - 00:13:01] Again.
[00:13:03 - 00:13:07] But you have the moment where everything in Peter's life is great
[00:13:07 - 00:13:09] and then he has this super interesting conversation.
[00:13:09 - 00:13:13] Well, hey, he tells that man that he's the recent Uncle Ben's dad,
[00:13:13 - 00:13:15] which is a great moment.
[00:13:15 - 00:13:16] Yes, incredible moment.
[00:13:16 - 00:13:20] I think, I can't remember the actress's name.
[00:13:21 - 00:13:22] When she walks upstairs, I'm like,
[00:13:22 - 00:13:26] that is such a real thing of like,
[00:13:26 - 00:13:28] I don't know if it would be this big explosion of anger.
[00:13:29 - 00:13:30] But like she literally just gets up and leaves
[00:13:30 - 00:13:32] and like you just feel the weight of that moment.
[00:13:32 - 00:13:32] Yeah.
[00:13:32 - 00:13:33] Oh my gosh.
[00:13:33 - 00:13:34] But you also know he did the right thing.
[00:13:34 - 00:13:35] Right.
[00:13:35 - 00:13:37] And this is something he's needed to get off his shoulders for so long.
[00:13:38 - 00:13:38] It is.
[00:13:38 - 00:13:39] Yeah, it's a great moment.
[00:13:39 - 00:13:42] So when you have the conversation when Aunt May is moving
[00:13:42 - 00:13:44] and they basically have the conversation of like,
[00:13:44 - 00:13:45] why are heroes important?
[00:13:45 - 00:13:46] Why do we need heroes?
[00:13:46 - 00:13:47] Yeah.
[00:13:47 - 00:13:51] And then Peter understands that like,
[00:13:52 - 00:13:53] this is why I need to be a Spider-Man.
[00:13:53 - 00:13:53] Yeah.
[00:13:53 - 00:13:57] This is why like Spider-Man has value
[00:13:57 - 00:14:01] and it's it is okay to sacrifice my life
[00:14:01 - 00:14:03] for the greater good of other people.
[00:14:03 - 00:14:03] Yes.
[00:14:04 - 00:14:05] Wait.
[00:14:07 - 00:14:11] Peter Parker at the end of one understood with great power
[00:14:11 - 00:14:13] comes great responsibility as like a burden.
[00:14:13 - 00:14:15] And it was like his burden to bear.
[00:14:15 - 00:14:17] I mean, I literally think he says that.
[00:14:17 - 00:14:20] This is like my cursed cross to bear or whatever in the movie.
[00:14:20 - 00:14:22] But then at that point when he's talking to Aunt May,
[00:14:22 - 00:14:24] it becomes a choice.
[00:14:24 - 00:14:27] And I'm like, that is how you emotionally develop your character.
[00:14:27 - 00:14:27] Yeah.
[00:14:27 - 00:14:28] 100%.
[00:14:28 - 00:14:28] It is so good.
[00:14:28 - 00:14:29] 100%.
[00:14:29 - 00:14:32] I mean like, he knows like,
[00:14:32 - 00:14:34] he's going to have to sacrifice so much.
[00:14:34 - 00:14:36] But I think this movie too,
[00:14:36 - 00:14:37] it ties it into his relationship with MJ.
[00:14:37 - 00:14:38] 100%.
[00:14:38 - 00:14:43] And like, he is actually pretty selfish in this one area.
[00:14:43 - 00:14:46] Because yeah, he like doesn't let MJ make a decision for herself.
[00:14:46 - 00:14:47] That's true.
[00:14:47 - 00:14:49] And like, to the point where she says like,
[00:14:49 - 00:14:50] you need to let me make a decision for myself.
[00:14:50 - 00:14:52] I want to be with you.
[00:14:52 - 00:14:54] And she needed to know that he was Spiderman
[00:14:54 - 00:14:56] before she could really be with him, which this movie does well.
[00:14:56 - 00:14:58] But like, I think the end of this movie is strong too,
[00:14:58 - 00:15:02] where MJ decides to be with Peter, like on her own.
[00:15:02 - 00:15:02] Yeah.
[00:15:02 - 00:15:03] So.
[00:15:03 - 00:15:06] I actually really like MJ as a character.
[00:15:06 - 00:15:07] I know she gets a lot of hate.
[00:15:07 - 00:15:09] I like her in this movie for sure.
[00:15:09 - 00:15:11] I don't, I haven't seen three yet in our rewatch.
[00:15:11 - 00:15:12] So.
[00:15:12 - 00:15:15] In two and three, she might be my favorite part of three.
[00:15:15 - 00:15:16] I don't know.
[00:15:16 - 00:15:17] We'll get into it tomorrow.
[00:15:17 - 00:15:18] Yeah, we'll get into it tomorrow.
[00:15:18 - 00:15:20] But I don't really know why she gets a lot of hate.
[00:15:20 - 00:15:22] Maybe it's just because these movies are so dated.
[00:15:22 - 00:15:26] But I think she's just a very understandable person.
[00:15:26 - 00:15:31] And being even friends with Peter Parker is hard.
[00:15:31 - 00:15:31] Yeah.
[00:15:31 - 00:15:32] So I think she plays that really well.
[00:15:32 - 00:15:34] Yeah, for sure.
[00:15:34 - 00:15:36] No, I think she's great in this movie.
[00:15:36 - 00:15:38] And like, yeah, she's kind of right too
[00:15:38 - 00:15:39] to diss Peter for half this movie.
[00:15:39 - 00:15:40] No, 100%.
[00:15:40 - 00:15:41] He's kind of.
[00:15:41 - 00:15:42] He's the worst.
[00:15:42 - 00:15:44] And from her perspective, from her perspective,
[00:15:44 - 00:15:44] he's a jerk.
[00:15:44 - 00:15:45] Yeah, 100%.
[00:15:46 - 00:15:49] He's like, just doesn't show up to anything.
[00:15:49 - 00:15:52] He like swerved her when she was like, I love you.
[00:15:52 - 00:15:54] He was like, yeah, bye.
[00:15:54 - 00:15:55] He's like, I love you too.
[00:15:55 - 00:15:56] And I'm never talking to you again.
[00:15:56 - 00:15:57] Yeah, it kind of sucks.
[00:15:57 - 00:15:59] So I think she's kind of valid for.
[00:15:59 - 00:16:00] I think she's so valid.
[00:16:00 - 00:16:02] Even like moving on and like,
[00:16:02 - 00:16:03] attempting to marry someone else.
[00:16:03 - 00:16:05] I'm like, who's a good dude, by the way.
[00:16:05 - 00:16:06] Like he seems like a great guy.
[00:16:06 - 00:16:08] I feel bad for him, honestly.
[00:16:08 - 00:16:09] He gets screwed over.
[00:16:09 - 00:16:10] Yeah, he does.
[00:16:10 - 00:16:12] It's kind of like the notebook where it's like, man,
[00:16:12 - 00:16:14] like James Morrison was like a great dude in that movie.
[00:16:14 - 00:16:16] And she just kind of like left it for Ryan Gosling.
[00:16:16 - 00:16:18] James Carter was awesome in that movie, but anyway.
[00:16:20 - 00:16:22] Thoughts in the scene of her like running from the altar.
[00:16:24 - 00:16:26] And so, I mean, that's like where we get really into the camp
[00:16:26 - 00:16:29] of this movie a little bit, but like it's still really good.
[00:16:29 - 00:16:34] I think like at this point, if you watch two movies,
[00:16:34 - 00:16:38] like you're in the drama of specifically this movie.
[00:16:38 - 00:16:41] I think it's a great moment for MJ where MJ can kind of
[00:16:41 - 00:16:45] feel like this object, not object, like this thing that
[00:16:45 - 00:16:48] Peter has on a pedestal a little bit, but like no,
[00:16:48 - 00:16:50] she has autonomy and makes a decision for herself there.
[00:16:50 - 00:16:51] And I like that about the movie.
[00:16:51 - 00:16:53] So I think that's well done.
[00:16:54 - 00:16:56] Well, I think kind of she is in Peter's mind.
[00:16:58 - 00:17:00] He has definitely put MJ on a pedestal.
[00:17:00 - 00:17:00] 100%.
[00:17:00 - 00:17:02] I mean, most of these first two movies.
[00:17:02 - 00:17:03] Yeah, 100%.
[00:17:03 - 00:17:07] And I think he's realizing that like, oh wait,
[00:17:07 - 00:17:11] like it is my duty to protect her obviously as Spider-Man.
[00:17:11 - 00:17:13] Like if she gets kidnapped by some villain,
[00:17:13 - 00:17:14] of course she should go after her.
[00:17:14 - 00:17:15] Yeah.
[00:17:15 - 00:17:20] But also, now that she knows like she has a choice in the matter.
[00:17:20 - 00:17:21] Yeah, 100%.
[00:17:21 - 00:17:22] Like he's trying to do the right thing,
[00:17:22 - 00:17:25] but I think he matures and like I think he's ready
[00:17:25 - 00:17:27] for a relationship by the end of the movie,
[00:17:27 - 00:17:32] which I would say three for my memory mismanages Peter
[00:17:32 - 00:17:33] a little bit, but like.
[00:17:33 - 00:17:34] I also agree.
[00:17:34 - 00:17:37] We'll dive into that, but at least in this movie,
[00:17:37 - 00:17:40] up to this point, he's ready for a relationship
[00:17:40 - 00:17:42] and he's in a good place.
[00:17:42 - 00:17:44] And I think in a same but very different way,
[00:17:45 - 00:17:47] Peter kind of does the same thing with Doc Ock.
[00:17:47 - 00:17:51] Like Peter lets Doc Ock destroy the fusion thing,
[00:17:51 - 00:17:53] which is not really scientifically accurate,
[00:17:53 - 00:17:55] but at that point, it's just a great moment.
[00:17:56 - 00:17:58] I don't think, anyway.
[00:17:58 - 00:17:59] As the scientists we are.
[00:17:59 - 00:18:01] I'm not, I'm not sure a fusion thing,
[00:18:02 - 00:18:04] a sun would just fizzle out in the river,
[00:18:04 - 00:18:07] but we'll get, that's a whole other thing.
[00:18:08 - 00:18:11] But like, I think Peter letting Doc Ock
[00:18:12 - 00:18:14] like make that sacrifice is also a subtly good moment.
[00:18:14 - 00:18:18] Like Peter's so bent on saving people,
[00:18:18 - 00:18:21] but like in that moment, he knows like this is Doc Ock's choice
[00:18:21 - 00:18:22] and I'm letting him make it.
[00:18:22 - 00:18:24] Like that's another really good moment.
[00:18:24 - 00:18:25] That isn't really talked about.
[00:18:25 - 00:18:26] I don't think, but it's still really solid.
[00:18:26 - 00:18:28] So yeah.
[00:18:28 - 00:18:29] I agree.
[00:18:29 - 00:18:30] I mean, I don't know.
[00:18:30 - 00:18:32] This movie is like we kind of talk positively
[00:18:32 - 00:18:33] about everything.
[00:18:33 - 00:18:34] Is there any negatives you have?
[00:18:34 - 00:18:36] I don't think I have a negative,
[00:18:36 - 00:18:38] but I also don't think I'm a great person to ask.
[00:18:38 - 00:18:39] That's probably fair.
[00:18:39 - 00:18:40] Do you have a negative?
[00:18:42 - 00:18:43] Honestly, not really.
[00:18:43 - 00:18:43] Okay.
[00:18:43 - 00:18:44] Wow.
[00:18:44 - 00:18:46] I'm kind of surprised you said that honestly.
[00:18:46 - 00:18:48] I mean, we haven't even talked a moment on the train.
[00:18:48 - 00:18:48] Oh my gosh.
[00:18:48 - 00:18:49] That moment is so good.
[00:18:49 - 00:18:50] So good.
[00:18:50 - 00:18:54] I mean, kind of New York is a little bit of a character
[00:18:54 - 00:18:55] in that moment too with the people.
[00:18:55 - 00:18:56] Oh, it's awesome.
[00:18:56 - 00:18:57] It's so great.
[00:18:57 - 00:18:58] That moment is great.
[00:18:58 - 00:18:59] Okay, wait, this was one thing.
[00:18:59 - 00:18:59] Got it.
[00:18:59 - 00:19:02] I had Doc Ock's one goal.
[00:19:02 - 00:19:05] And he's told by Harry, just bring me Peter.
[00:19:05 - 00:19:06] Right.
[00:19:06 - 00:19:07] They're on this train.
[00:19:07 - 00:19:11] And he's like, well, I'm just going to leave you to figure this out
[00:19:11 - 00:19:13] and assume you're dead.
[00:19:13 - 00:19:15] That does not make a lot of sense.
[00:19:15 - 00:19:17] That's like the one decision that I think doesn't make a lot of sense.
[00:19:17 - 00:19:22] Like, I think he would try to take Peter and just let the people die.
[00:19:22 - 00:19:28] My one thought is like, he's going to let Peter exhaust himself trying to stop
[00:19:28 - 00:19:32] the train and then just plug him up because he comes back.
[00:19:32 - 00:19:32] Yeah.
[00:19:32 - 00:19:34] Okay, you know, you're right.
[00:19:34 - 00:19:35] No, you're right.
[00:19:35 - 00:19:39] But it when he like breaks the train tracks or whatever, and then he just like
[00:19:39 - 00:19:43] crawls at the building, you're like, you got to you got to get this guy.
[00:19:43 - 00:19:46] Okay, no, I'm actually going to retract my statement.
[00:19:46 - 00:19:47] Okay, I don't think it's that bad.
[00:19:47 - 00:19:48] I don't think it's in the moment.
[00:19:48 - 00:19:51] I was like, bro, like you're just supposed to take him.
[00:19:51 - 00:19:53] But then he ends up taking them.
[00:19:53 - 00:19:53] That's right.
[00:19:53 - 00:19:54] That's right.
[00:19:54 - 00:19:57] Um, I don't think it's that bad.
[00:19:58 - 00:20:00] Um, yeah, the trance is awesome.
[00:20:00 - 00:20:01] I think the CG there is sick.
[00:20:01 - 00:20:04] Oh, this CGI is again, I know I've said it's really good.
[00:20:04 - 00:20:05] It's really good.
[00:20:05 - 00:20:08] Also the hospital horror scene.
[00:20:08 - 00:20:08] Oh my God.
[00:20:08 - 00:20:11] Yeah, I meant to say that that was shot like a horror movie.
[00:20:11 - 00:20:11] Yeah.
[00:20:11 - 00:20:11] It's so straight.
[00:20:11 - 00:20:13] It's like Sam Raimi.
[00:20:13 - 00:20:17] But like, I was like, if there was blood, this would be like a crazy
[00:20:17 - 00:20:18] horror movie sequence.
[00:20:18 - 00:20:20] But like, there's no blood.
[00:20:20 - 00:20:22] So they got away with the PG rating.
[00:20:22 - 00:20:22] But still.
[00:20:22 - 00:20:23] This is the only PG.
[00:20:23 - 00:20:24] Yeah.
[00:20:24 - 00:20:25] Oh, no way.
[00:20:25 - 00:20:26] It's great though.
[00:20:26 - 00:20:27] It's a really great sequence.
[00:20:27 - 00:20:28] You really don't feel PG.
[00:20:28 - 00:20:29] I mean, nowadays they'd be PG.
[00:20:29 - 00:20:33] Maybe it's just because like Norman Osborn terrified me as a child.
[00:20:33 - 00:20:34] Dude, he's scary.
[00:20:34 - 00:20:35] He's so scary.
[00:20:35 - 00:20:37] Um, I mean, I don't have a lot of other sequences I want to
[00:20:37 - 00:20:40] talk about with this movie besides like every sequence is great,
[00:20:40 - 00:20:41] in my opinion.
[00:20:41 - 00:20:46] Like, I think this movie just balances everything super well.
[00:20:46 - 00:20:47] Yeah, I agree.
[00:20:47 - 00:20:50] I mean, I'm willing to say right now, which way, wait,
[00:20:50 - 00:20:50] let's do a ranking.
[00:20:50 - 00:20:51] Yeah, okay.
[00:20:52 - 00:20:54] We have only talked about two Spider-Man movies.
[00:20:54 - 00:20:54] True.
[00:20:54 - 00:20:55] I think it's pretty easy.
[00:20:55 - 00:20:58] One Spider-Man 2 and our two slot is Spider-Man 1.
[00:20:58 - 00:20:59] I also agree.
[00:21:00 - 00:21:03] But like, I think this is potentially the best Spider-Man movie.
[00:21:03 - 00:21:06] I doubt any other movies are going to hold a candle to this one.
[00:21:06 - 00:21:07] At least live action wise.
[00:21:07 - 00:21:08] I agree.
[00:21:09 - 00:21:10] We'll see.
[00:21:11 - 00:21:12] Another question I have for you,
[00:21:12 - 00:21:14] which I know we've kind of talked about,
[00:21:14 - 00:21:17] but like Alfred Molina's Doc Ock.
[00:21:17 - 00:21:17] Okay.
[00:21:17 - 00:21:19] Is it the best Spider-Man villain?
[00:21:19 - 00:21:23] We can even just say we'll compare them to every Spider-Man villain from here on out.
[00:21:24 - 00:21:24] Do you want to do that?
[00:21:24 - 00:21:25] Yeah, let's do it.
[00:21:25 - 00:21:27] But like, for right now,
[00:21:27 - 00:21:29] do you think Doc Ock is better than Green Goblin?
[00:21:32 - 00:21:34] I guess we have to include No Way Home.
[00:21:35 - 00:21:36] Spoilers for No Way Home, I guess, but like...
[00:21:38 - 00:21:41] Yeah, are we including their arcs in No Way Home?
[00:21:41 - 00:21:42] I would say yes.
[00:21:42 - 00:21:42] Okay.
[00:21:42 - 00:21:44] But I don't think No Way Home really changes my opinion.
[00:21:44 - 00:21:45] Yeah, I'm going to say no.
[00:21:46 - 00:21:47] Doc Ock, isn't better than Green Goblin?
[00:21:47 - 00:21:47] No.
[00:21:48 - 00:21:49] Why?
[00:21:49 - 00:21:50] Willem Dafoe is iconic.
[00:21:50 - 00:21:51] No, I know.
[00:21:52 - 00:21:54] But like, sympathetic villain?
[00:21:54 - 00:21:56] Well, he's more sympathetic than Norman Osborn,
[00:21:56 - 00:21:59] but if we're including No Way Home specifically,
[00:21:59 - 00:22:00] I don't like No Way Home.
[00:22:00 - 00:22:03] The fight with Green Goblin on the
[00:22:03 - 00:22:07] Cash America Shield or whatever at the Statue of Liberty is so good.
[00:22:08 - 00:22:10] Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin has so much more aura.
[00:22:10 - 00:22:11] He's so...
[00:22:11 - 00:22:12] I mean, it's just Willem Dafoe.
[00:22:12 - 00:22:13] He is killer.
[00:22:15 - 00:22:16] They're both great.
[00:22:16 - 00:22:18] I'd say let's continue this debate and maybe we wrap it up
[00:22:18 - 00:22:21] towards the No Way Home section of this marathon, but...
[00:22:21 - 00:22:23] Ooh, that has a good conclusion point for this argument.
[00:22:26 - 00:22:29] Man, I disagree with you, but I'm willing to keep debating.
[00:22:29 - 00:22:32] Let us know your thoughts on Spider-Man 2 on Doc Ock.
[00:22:32 - 00:22:36] We have to give it our stroll on my line rating as well.
[00:22:36 - 00:22:36] I know.
[00:22:37 - 00:22:37] We'll do that in a second.
[00:22:37 - 00:22:39] Oh, I thought you were wrapping up.
[00:22:39 - 00:22:41] Still though, I'm going to wrap up this conversation.
[00:22:41 - 00:22:42] Let us know your thoughts on that.
[00:22:43 - 00:22:44] Which villain you think is best.
[00:22:44 - 00:22:46] Are we just like way off the mark here?
[00:22:46 - 00:22:47] A lot of people.
[00:22:49 - 00:22:50] Say Vulture is up there too.
[00:22:50 - 00:22:53] I've heard good things about Vulture in recent comment.
[00:22:53 - 00:22:55] I kind of disagree, but we'll get there.
[00:22:55 - 00:22:56] We will get there.
[00:22:58 - 00:22:59] Let us know if you like Spider-Man 2.
[00:22:59 - 00:23:01] Let's do our rating system really quick.
[00:23:01 - 00:23:02] This is going to be a quick one.
[00:23:02 - 00:23:02] Yep.
[00:23:02 - 00:23:05] Because I didn't know how I'd feel kind of going into this
[00:23:05 - 00:23:07] because I wasn't super high on one.
[00:23:07 - 00:23:08] I love Spider-Man 2.
[00:23:08 - 00:23:10] Do you remember what we gave one?
[00:23:12 - 00:23:13] Streaming.
[00:23:13 - 00:23:13] No.
[00:23:13 - 00:23:14] Did we end it on Blu-ray?
[00:23:14 - 00:23:15] Yeah.
[00:23:15 - 00:23:17] I definitely conceded my argument to you.
[00:23:18 - 00:23:19] I have 1 million percent of that.
[00:23:19 - 00:23:20] You definitely did.
[00:23:20 - 00:23:23] Well, I'm willing to say that you should own both Spider-Man 1
[00:23:23 - 00:23:25] and Spider-Man 2 on Blu-ray.
[00:23:25 - 00:23:25] I agree.
[00:23:25 - 00:23:27] Super solid entries.
[00:23:29 - 00:23:30] Myselfs to say there.
[00:23:30 - 00:23:31] Yep, I agree.
[00:23:31 - 00:23:32] They're both phenomenal.
[00:23:33 - 00:23:34] Drew, you're at a party.
[00:23:34 - 00:23:35] I'm at a party.
[00:23:35 - 00:23:36] It is a chill birthday party.
[00:23:36 - 00:23:36] Okay.
[00:23:36 - 00:23:38] And you don't know a lot of people.
[00:23:38 - 00:23:38] Okay.
[00:23:38 - 00:23:40] And Spider-Man 2, this is the easiest question
[00:23:40 - 00:23:41] of all time for you.
[00:23:41 - 00:23:43] Spider-Man 2 is on the TV in the other room.
[00:23:43 - 00:23:44] Yep.
[00:23:44 - 00:23:45] What are you doing?
[00:23:45 - 00:23:46] I'm sitting down and watching it.
[00:23:47 - 00:23:49] It's a pretty good party movie, I think.
[00:23:49 - 00:23:50] If any Spider-Man movie is...
[00:23:50 - 00:23:51] I totally agree.
[00:23:51 - 00:23:52] But that is just my...
[00:23:52 - 00:23:56] If I'm in the state of a little awkward social situation.
[00:23:56 - 00:23:57] Like, I don't know a lot of people here.
[00:23:57 - 00:23:59] I don't know a lot of people in a Spider-Man movie is on.
[00:23:59 - 00:24:01] I am running to that Spider-Man movie.
[00:24:01 - 00:24:04] That's my safety net to avoid this awkward conversation.
[00:24:04 - 00:24:05] No, yeah.
[00:24:05 - 00:24:05] Oh, my God.
[00:24:05 - 00:24:06] And then, as somebody comes up
[00:24:06 - 00:24:07] and starts talking about Spider-Man,
[00:24:07 - 00:24:08] you're like golden.
[00:24:08 - 00:24:10] I can have this conversation for days.
[00:24:10 - 00:24:12] Yeah, this is a great party movie.
[00:24:12 - 00:24:13] Totally agree.
[00:24:13 - 00:24:15] Drew, well, first off, thank you guys for being here.
[00:24:15 - 00:24:16] If you haven't subscribed,
[00:24:16 - 00:24:17] please be serious.
[00:24:17 - 00:24:18] You should.
[00:24:18 - 00:24:20] We have a lot more Spider-Man we're about to talk about.
[00:24:20 - 00:24:22] Send in your Spider-Man hot take.
[00:24:22 - 00:24:23] True.
[00:24:23 - 00:24:25] We have a lot of Spider-Man hot takes sent in already.
[00:24:25 - 00:24:26] But if you have a hot take, please send it in.
[00:24:26 - 00:24:29] We're doing a massive Spider-Man hot takes video
[00:24:29 - 00:24:31] at the end of this whole marathon.
[00:24:31 - 00:24:32] So, send in your hot take.
[00:24:32 - 00:24:34] We might have to do two episodes.
[00:24:34 - 00:24:34] Maybe even...
[00:24:34 - 00:24:36] We have a ton of hot takes already
[00:24:36 - 00:24:38] and the marathon is starting now.
[00:24:38 - 00:24:39] It's incredible.
[00:24:39 - 00:24:40] So, please send in your hot takes
[00:24:40 - 00:24:42] and we'll try to get around to them.
[00:24:42 - 00:24:42] Yeah.
[00:24:43 - 00:24:45] Drew, what do we have coming up next?
[00:24:45 - 00:24:46] Obviously, Spider-Man.
[00:24:46 - 00:24:49] Obviously, we have Spider-Man 3 coming up next,
[00:24:49 - 00:24:52] followed by Tazum 1 and 2,
[00:24:52 - 00:24:54] and then Homecoming, Far From Home, No Way Home.
[00:24:54 - 00:24:58] And then, I said this on the Princess Bride episode yesterday,
[00:24:58 - 00:25:00] but you might not have watched that and that's okay.
[00:25:00 - 00:25:01] Yeah.
[00:25:02 - 00:25:04] We are going to get to see Brandon Day a little early.
[00:25:05 - 00:25:06] Yes, we are.
[00:25:06 - 00:25:07] I don't really know how you managed that, but you did.
[00:25:07 - 00:25:10] It was like an Amazon Prime thing that I snuck us into.
[00:25:10 - 00:25:13] So, we're going to drop a non-spoiler review
[00:25:13 - 00:25:15] in the middle of our Spider-Man marathon.
[00:25:16 - 00:25:17] It might not even be that long.
[00:25:17 - 00:25:18] No, it might be like 10 minutes.
[00:25:19 - 00:25:20] And then, at the end of the marathon,
[00:25:20 - 00:25:23] we'll be our big brand-new day dive into.
[00:25:23 - 00:25:24] Yes.
[00:25:24 - 00:25:25] And it'll come out the day after No Way Home.
[00:25:25 - 00:25:26] Yep.
[00:25:26 - 00:25:28] So, that's kind of the structure of how we're doing this thing.
[00:25:28 - 00:25:30] A little weird, but I love it.
[00:25:30 - 00:25:30] Yep.
[00:25:30 - 00:25:30] It'll be fun.
[00:25:30 - 00:25:32] We're a little weird and you love us.
[00:25:32 - 00:25:35] Yes, that's why you just hit that subscribe button.
[00:25:35 - 00:25:37] But we also have the Legend of Aang movie coming out.
[00:25:37 - 00:25:37] True.
[00:25:38 - 00:25:39] I guess, what day is today?
[00:25:40 - 00:25:41] I think it actually comes out today.
[00:25:42 - 00:25:44] But we're probably not going to get around to our review
[00:25:44 - 00:25:46] until Monday.
[00:25:46 - 00:25:46] Sunday.
[00:25:46 - 00:25:47] Monday.
[00:25:47 - 00:25:48] Well, we're going to record.
[00:25:48 - 00:25:48] Sunday.
[00:25:48 - 00:25:49] Right.
[00:25:49 - 00:25:50] Jury's out on when that comes out.
[00:25:50 - 00:25:50] We don't know yet.
[00:25:50 - 00:25:52] We will release our Legend of Aang review
[00:25:52 - 00:25:55] with a special guest who I'm not going to say who it is yet.
[00:25:55 - 00:25:57] They've never been on the podcast before.
[00:25:57 - 00:25:58] It is not Polly.
[00:25:58 - 00:25:59] It is not Polly, my wife.
[00:25:59 - 00:26:01] It will be a first-time guest,
[00:26:01 - 00:26:04] but I'm very excited to have a guest on the podcast for that.
[00:26:04 - 00:26:05] Yeah, we've got House of the Dragon coming out.
[00:26:05 - 00:26:05] House of the Dragon.
[00:26:06 - 00:26:08] Bunch of new movies will be coming out soon.
[00:26:08 - 00:26:10] Lanterns is around the corner, if you're into DC.
[00:26:10 - 00:26:11] We haven't watched the invite,
[00:26:11 - 00:26:12] but we might watch that as well.
[00:26:12 - 00:26:13] Oh, I did watch it.
[00:26:13 - 00:26:13] Oh, you did?
[00:26:13 - 00:26:14] Yeah.
[00:26:14 - 00:26:15] I didn't even know you watched it.
[00:26:15 - 00:26:16] Yeah, I watched it.
[00:26:16 - 00:26:17] Well, I want to ask you if it's good,
[00:26:17 - 00:26:18] but I'll wait till we end this episode,
[00:26:18 - 00:26:20] because we might give our thoughts on that at some point.
[00:26:21 - 00:26:24] Yeah, so if there's anything you want to say
[00:26:24 - 00:26:25] in the comment section, go for it.
[00:26:25 - 00:26:26] We love you guys.
[00:26:26 - 00:26:26] We do.
[00:26:26 - 00:26:29] So thanks for sticking with us,
[00:26:29 - 00:26:31] and with great power comes great responsibility.
[00:26:31 - 00:26:32] I was going to do that.
[00:26:32 - 00:26:33] No way.
[00:26:33 - 00:26:33] Yes.
[00:26:33 - 00:26:34] Okay, all right.
[00:26:34 - 00:26:35] Let me cut.
[00:26:35 - 00:26:36] No, it's fine.
[00:26:36 - 00:26:37] No, you can do it.
[00:26:37 - 00:26:39] It's a cut in the viewer's mind.
[00:26:41 - 00:26:42] Thank you for watching Soul by Line today.
[00:26:44 - 00:26:46] Today on this day that you're watching Soul by Line,
[00:26:47 - 00:26:48] take a break,
[00:26:48 - 00:26:50] and with great power comes great responsibility.
[00:26:50 - 00:26:52] Enjoy film.

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Drew McKinney
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Drew McKinney
Co-host and co-founder of Stole My Line - A Fireside Film Podcast.
Grant Crenshaw
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Grant Crenshaw
Co-host and co-founder of Stole My Line - A Fireside Film Podcast.

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